What are you listening to?

Thanks for the reply, which modules of Surge would you recommend in VCV Rack? I hear a piano bass at the beginning and string ensemble-[When live show-a real violin player] and some bass guitar.

Install and load Surge Rack Patch Player and use the little orange knobs to choose the bank (e.g. Keys) and the patch (e.g. Church). As I said it contains most of the sounds you’ll need, but once you’ve got it sounding good you can always tweak or bring in other sound modules.

Edit: Found a more recent version I’d done in Reaper using a Korg M1 plugin - if it helps this is what I have on each track

  1. Main Brass - Combi Mode patch named “Brass 1 and 2” - Brass1, Brass2
  2. Reso Bass - Combi Mode patch named “MultiBass” - SynthBass3, Fretless, Pick Bass, Slap Bass, SynthBass2
  3. Vocals - Combi Mode patch named “OrchSwitch” - Trumpet, Trombone, FrenchHorn, Stringorch, Choir, Pizzicato
  4. Low Choir - Combi Mode patch named “Where’sFrog?” - River Flow, Wind1, Wind2, Thunder, Frog, Kitten
  5. Piano - Combi Mode patch named “AOR Piano” - Fumi E.Pf2, Rock!Piano
  6. Flute - Combi Mode patch named “WoodWinds2” - Clarinet, DoubleReed, Hard Flute, Flute
  7. Flute/Guitar - Combi Mode patch named “Guit/Flute” - 12 string guitar and flute

Thanks for that, I have loaded up the ‘Surge Rack Patch player’ and the Surge Osc but when I try to wire up the modules, it crashes. Just doing an optimise using Norton Utilities, the warning said not enough referenced memory! I am using Vult Bleak, Basal and Squinky Organ 3 as the modules, I haven’t had any problems with those before. This could turn into an epic thread just about this patch!

Not sure. FWIW I just rendered my Korg M1 VST version and it kind of works even if it needs a bit of tweaking and mixing

A State Of Trance 1000 !!!

Thanks for that, that’s damn near it! That just using the presets on the Vst mixed together! Marvellous. Does Surge have the same presets, that’s for me to find out really.

Organ 3 uses very, very little ram.

Not the same, but I’m sure you can get close. There is a free Surge synth/plugin you can download from the Surge site which lets you edit deeply, but I don’t know if it’s possible to create or edit new patches/presets that can be reused in the VCV Rack module.

I just did a quick comparison between the fxp file for a patch for the Linux lv2 version of Surge and the same patch file in the VCV Surge data, and they are the same. This suggests you might be able to use the stand alone version and put the fxp into the VCV Surge data area.

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Good to know, I guess you’d drop those patches into the Surge Rack folder structure and it would pick them up. Worth a test. Will also do that later.

Thank you gentlemen, much appreciated. I will continue my Warsawa track experience using Surge until I get a version as good as Mark Rowe’s one. Being able to use my midi keyboard has opened up a new door to composition. Thank once again to both of you. Stay safe and well.

Great, back on track with this wonderful study in how to employ dynamics to enthrall an audience

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https://soundcloud.com/giunky/trictik-on-01-die-antwood

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If you get results, either positive or negative, please report back for the benefit of the readers. I’ll do the same, though I tend to use the freestanding Surge modules when in Rack and an LV2 version externally when I want the whole soft synth.

OK so it worked.

  1. In the plugin version of Surge click on the patch name, from the menu that comes up chose the option right down the bottom named “Open third party patches folder” - keep this open.

  2. Create a patch in Surge and then click ‘Store’, I chose a new patch name, but gave it the category name “zzzUser” so it should show up last in the bank list on the VCV module.

  3. Navigate to the new zzzUser bank and copy it over to where the VCV patches for the Surge module live. This will depend on various things like your OS etc, but on mine I copied that “zzzUser” bank into…

C:\Users\myname\OneDrive\Documents\Rack\plugins-v1\SurgeRack\build\surge-data\patches_3rdparty

  1. Reopen VCV so it recaches directories and open the Surge module in there and you should see your new bank at the 100% right end of the bank knob selections and whatever patch you created in there.

I am really sorry about posting all this in this topic. It’s nothing to do with what I’m listening to! :slight_smile:

In recompense…

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And now further down a Peel Sessions YouTube rabbithole…

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Does anyone else love listening to Todd Terje? He is realy good at the rytmic stuff as well as allways keeping the continous melodies interesting. I would love to chat with those of you who maybe have the same taste as me :slight_smile:

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That’s a fun one :slight_smile: Among us rackers here, you might want to check out @Espen

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