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[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@FiroLFO

In think in case of the 3rd step the sample should be muted.

Yes, I completely agree. I think this must be a bug. I’ll get this fixed ASAP.

@secretcinema

Could this be a solution to the clicking that occurs when snapping the offset to16 for a 1 bar breakbeat for example?

It might! I might consider it a work-around, but I’m hesitant to call it a “solution”. Ideally the module would contain special code to avoid those clicks and pops, but I’ve been hesitant to dive into that due to the complexity involved. When I’m in a particularly smart mood, I’ll give it a shot. Ha ha ha. Would you happen to have a good loop that illustrates the clicking sound that I can use for testing?

@lozzec

I would have two requests. The first one is easy I think. Let’s say I have track 1 in solo mode. Now I would like to be able to use a command key to solo a second track and at the same time deactivate track 1, or other soloed tracks. It would be cool to be able to use an Alt or Ctrl key for this.

Sure! I can do this! I’ll get this done tonight. Please be patient as it takes a while for my updates to pass through VCV Rack’s build process. It should be available on version 2.17.0. (2.16.1 is currently being processed and will be released before it).

@lozzec

Almost every time I start to create a rhythmic sequence, In the end I realize that my sequence is not correctly positioned. That is to say that what would have been the first beat is on step 5. Sometimes I’d like to relocate the sequence, so that it starts in the right place. Maybe a function to shift the track, or even the whole sequence, in the right click menu, or since there is already a copy-paste function, a way to paste but at a given position ?

Absolutely. I have that feature in Digital Sequencer. Do you want the sequence and all parameter locks to shift with it? I would assume so, but thought I should ask.

Cheers,
Bret

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

Sorry! My last post turned out to be incorrect. I need to look more deeply into FireLFO’s request.

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@FiroLFO

If I press MUTE: the sample is muting. But

• 1. pressing SOLO; sample is playing (fine)
• 2. then pressing MUTE; sample is playing (fine)
• 3. unchecking SOLO; sample is playing (not OK)

This is fixed! Really nice catch!! It should be rolling out in the next major release.

=== UPDATE ===

I found some other weird edge cases and I need to make some thoughtful updates to my code to get them all correct. Stay tuned. I found that detaching and reattaching the expander module could resurface this issue, as can starting the module from scratch. I’ll keep on this.

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@lozzec

I would have two requests. The first one is easy I think. Let’s say I have track 1 in solo mode. Now I would like to be able to use a command key to solo a second track and at the same time deactivate track 1, or other soloed tracks. It would be cool to be able to use an Alt or Ctrl key for this.

This is done! I decided to use the shift key.

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@FiroLFO

If I press MUTE: the sample is muting. But

• 1. pressing SOLO; sample is playing (fine)
• 2. then pressing MUTE; sample is playing (fine)
• 3. unchecking SOLO; sample is playing (not OK)

Ok, this time for real it’s fixed. Thanks again for catching that bug. The new update should be a LOT more stable when it comes to correctly responding to mute and solo buttons.

[secretcinema (Jeroen Verheij)]

That’s also what I meant by shifting the start position you shift the whole sequence, but by keeping the 16 steps. Now if the start position is moved one step forward, the sequence loop becomes 15 steps.

[secretcinema (Jeroen Verheij)]

And yes I do have an example, will send you asap.

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@secretcinema

That’s also what I meant by shifting the start position you shift the whole sequence, but by keeping the 16 steps. Now if the start position is moved one step forward, the sequence loop becomes 15 steps.

Oh, I’m sorry, I had misunderstood you before. I’ll get this done tonight.

[lozzec]

@clone45

Sure! I can do this! I’ll get this done tonight. Please be patient …

Awesome. And I’m a very patient man haha

@clone45

Do you want the sequence and all parameter locks to shift with it? I would assume so…

I hadn’t thought of that but yes, it does make sense.

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@lozzec

Maybe a function to shift the track, or even the whole sequence, in the right click menu, or since there is already a copy-paste function, a way to paste but at a given position ?

Alright! I have this done! I have to admit that my code isn’t 100% perfect. If you vigorously shift left and right, you’ll see that the mouse position doesn’t align perfectly with the pattern that you are dragging. However, it really doesn’t matter functionally, and everything shifts properly. I’ll get the math right eventually.

What I ended up doing is repurposing the shift key for this feature. Previously, you could hold the shift key while clicking on a blue step button to set the track length. However, since I’ve introduced the ability to change the playback window by dragging the track-length drag handles, that old user-experience has become somewhat unnecessary.

Instead – You’re now able to:

1. Hold the shift key
2. Click a blue step button
3. Drag left or right to shift all of the the steps to the left or right, including the parameter locks

This only affects the currently selected track. I could add a feature to shift ALL tracks left and right if you think it would be helpful. I would probably do that as a context menu option though. In your case, it sounds like this might be useful! Actually, I should probably do this. ** sigh ** OK, ok, I’ll get this done soon. Ha ha ha. It actually shouldn’t be too bad.

I’ll post a video of it soon. I have to make a new tutorial video soon and update all of the documentation anyhow.

Cheers,
Bret

[lozzec]

Wow, you went further than I thought. I was just thinking of a step-by-step shifter button. But it’s great like this. And I must admit shift the whole sequence make sense now, haha.

Anyway, thank you very much

[secretcinema (Jeroen Verheij)]

Fantastic. That’s exactly what I hoped for by shifting the pattern. Very nice!

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@clone45

I could add a feature to shift ALL tracks left and right if you think it would be helpful.

This is completed and will be included in the next major release. This is achieved by holding SHIFT+CONTROL while dragging a blue step button.

Next Up: By request, I’ll be creating a menu option for controlling if mute and solo buttons affect individual outputs or only the master output.

[jeremy]

Are you still planning on adding sample end as a parameter?

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

That’s a good question. It’s a really challenging feature. The easiest way that I could approach it is at a fairly low-level. Instead of:

if(sample_playback_position > actual_sample_length) then stop or loop sample

It would become:

float virtual_sample_end =  parameter lock knob
if(sample_playback_position > virtual_sample_end ) then stop or loop sample

Is this the behavior that you’re looking for?

I’m a bit concerned that ending the samples early will result in pops and clicks. I might have to consider that as well.

[jeremy]

I think that’s what I’m looking for. Wouldn’t the sample offset param also already have a possibility of clicks?

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@jeremy

Wouldn’t the sample offset param also already have a possibility of clicks?

That’s very true. I haven’t addressed that yet either, but you might be able to use the new Attack/Release envelope to circumvent them.

[jeremy]

Thats true too.

[steve]

@jeremy

Are you still planning on adding sample end as a parameter?

@clone45

That’s a good question. It’s a really challenging feature.

Bret - you could take a peep at the code in the Lomas sampler which has ‘start’ and ‘end’ as parameters.

While ‘release’ certainly helps if there is no ‘end’ control - having both should allow for much finer control, particularly on longer samples.

Having both should also help deal with any clicking issue, as having set an ‘end’, the release can essentially work as a fade out (as can ‘attack’ work as a fade in for ‘offset’).

[clone45 (Bret Truchan)]

@jeremy @steve

Just brainstorming here, but what if I expanded the Attack/Release envelope to be a full blown ADSR envelope? Sustain would range from a few milliseconds to 4 seconds. If sustain and decay are set to 0, then it would act as a Attack/Release envelope (which is how it is behaving right now).