I’ve just started working with buchla synths and I’m a bit behind on the thread, so apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but two nice things about the use of banana jacks are the ability to stack them on inputs and outputs. You can actually blend triggers by stacking multiple outputs onto an input, and the hardware supports that. But, in this case, judging by this video, it seems like they mean triggering multiple inputs from a single output.
Thanks Dan. Very helpful. Still not sure I entirely follow, but it’s a start!
Cheers, Chris.
“… and I know it’s going to be reissued soon” Is that by any chance from tiptop to Eurorack?
Whilst I hope so (and they can build it in 104HP or less), this may be referring to the reissue of the 4U 200 series, which has several more modules available than the TipTop series.
The original MARF was analog and could be used as a VCO. This clone is digital and can do everything like the original excepted VCO. if there is a reissue, it would probably be digital… If some dev feels up to the challenge, the code inside this machine is opensource
It would be a hell to make an actual MARF in vcv, and we would need a completely different way to operate it with a mouse and what she describes is a small% of what a marf can do but a module that covers only the topics of the video would already be incredible. and you know you can count me in for the GUI/UX
Yeah, after a bit of research I think she must be referring to the Source of Uncertainty stuff.
@pyer : one can dream
i am currently try to understand the ciani cookbook patches,thank you for all the hard work @pyer . after several readings of your tutorials i patch something with modules i often use. here is a question i cant find answers for: is it correct, that buchla 259e and 261e contains two vco, a waveshaper and a wavefolder? to emulate it, it will be necessary to use two vcos with waveshaping capabilities and a wavefolder with timbre, symmetry and gain control. is this correct? i ask, because i want to patch something as close as possible.
Hi! Thanks for your kind words
The cookbook focuses on her 1974 setup, where she uses the 258 oscillators, they are much simpler than the 295e and 261e: it’s just two VCOs in one module. one has a sinewave than can be morphed to a saw wave, and the other one has a sinewave that can be morphed to a squarewave. She controls the morph effect with the MARF to have some notes popping out randomly. The cookbook focuses on patching composition techniques and there are very few things about tone shaping
Now as for her modern setup, she uses a 295e and 261e, also dual VCOs, she uses both principal and modulator as audio sources.
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The 295e is fully digital,
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The primary VCO it’s an interesting wave table like concept: you select a waveshape at the start, and a waveshape at the end, and then you can morph between them. It then goes through a digital wavefolder (warp). Candidates in the library are Surge wavetable VCO, Valley Terroform and Blamsoft XFX, all of them have wavetable + integrated wavefolder.
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The mod VCO is digital, standard with selectable wavetable, any VCO will do
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The 261e is a digital sinewave sent into an analog waveshaper. any pure sinewave VCO will do, Befaco is probably the best bucha like analog wavefolder around.
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The mod VCO is like the 258: a sine morphing into a square. unknown if the vco of the waveshaper is analog. I couldn’t find any VCO doing exactly that, I had good results with Vult bleak.bit of an opverkill but Instruo triple VCO does it. You could also just filter a squarewave, and manage the V/oct to control the cutoff so the waveshape stay consistent on full range.
I found very little info on how she makes uses of the modern features on the 259e and 261e, She said she doesn’t use FM, but that’s about it.
From what I understand looking at pictures of her patch:
- The two principal VCOs are bridged: they recieve the same pitch: we can assume they play at unison or provide tone variation on a same melody. Unlike the 1974 system, this new one is patched as a duophonic only instruments.
- Same for the modulation VCOs, they are bridged.
- None of the tone shaping features of the principal VCO are patched, means the wave folders are not CV controlled, they are probably just hand tweaked live, or they could just be static.
- The 261e’s MOD vco waveshape is patched to the MARF, it is the only CV controlled tone shaping on the VCOs. We can assume that the intro with accentuated sharper is made focusing on this VCO.
thank you for the detailed replay. i have a lot to investigate now . i will try the befaco wavefolder, currently i use msm, because of symmetry control and other features. actual i use vco-lab as modulation vco, because of all features build in(cv controlled phase and other things). i use treemonster for pitchtracking, dhe swave for the s-wave timbre. this mentioned another user for building a 261e.
will build testpatches and probably upload it here.
Hi There!
Yesterday I had the pleasure to bring this adventure to an end, with my first Suzanne Ciani concert, we had the opportunity a chat after the show! Needless to say I was super impressed as she was really happy about this project that she followed all along, with email answers to all my questions (until yesterday I was still 98% sure it wasn’t a hoax ). She really is the nicest person in electronic music.
I recommend anyone who can to go see a concert, I listened to every version I could find of the 4 sequences, but still it can’t be compared with being part of the audience, that trill when hearing the first VCO roar emerging from the noise waves, the dynamic of sound, the altered sense of time … it was like earing it for the first time!
Oh i’m so envious. Never heard, that she gave a concert in germany. did she played in quadro or multichannel?
don’t hesitate to check her website from time to time, everything is announced there
A playhead is the position of playback in the sequencer. Most sequencers have one playhead per channel (like ShapeMaster). Some allow multiple playheads (like using Poly select inputs on Bogaudio ADDR)
That sounds like @jeremy’s NoteSeqFu https://library.vcvrack.com/JW-Modules/NoteSeqFu
That sounds like a very special and fantastic experience! Nice!