Hello!
For a sequence containing short, middle and long note durations would you use 3 different envelopes with static setting or is it better to modulate the same envelope somehow?
Cheers!
“better” depends on exactly what you want to achieve, and whether/how you want to be able to “perform” it. If you want exact machine-like replication, the fixed envelopes. If you want a potentially dynamic, morphing envelope, then a modulated one (or modulated envs for each).
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The big problem with using seperate envelopes is: How will you route the gate to those different envelopes depending on the note duration? I can’t right now think of a single sequencer that outputs a fixed value for the set note duration, and without that you can’t route to the right envelope.
So in practice you just have to dial in an ADSR that sounds good with both short and long durations.
Of course, this is modular, so (almost) anything is possible. You could set up a seperate sequencer, that outputs values for short/middle/long durations for each step in the main sequencer and then route to the envelope depending on that secondary output. It’s possible but quite tedious and probably not worth it.
I was thinking first row trigger the pitches in the sequencer, second row triggers the longest duration gate+envelope, third row triggers middle length gate+envelope and fourth row shortest duration
For this application - not morphing. So the purpose is to have the envelope hit the sweetspot for each not duration. Often if you have longer and faster hits in the same sequence if you have an open envelope the fast duration ones will feel crammed. With modulating i meant for instans that you will dial a higher cv value from sequencer into the envelope when you want a longer duration
This is my envelope chain currently, and also I would prefer (not demand) but prefer to do it first with basic building block modules that are available in eurorack.
Hexaquark does do indeed 3 different envelopes, but in my gate+envelope, i want to dial in 3 different kind of envelope shapes for 3 different note durations.
When the 3 envelopes are fixed for each duration - within each envelope i would want to round robin different kind of filter modulations with shapemaster pro. What do you think of that?
the purpose of the post was actually to find out if there is another way to do it than to use 3 rows in a trigger sequencer. ChatGPT talked something about a counter. I did not understand it.
Hello Lars
the purpose of the post was actually to find out if there is another way to do it than to use 3 rows in a trigger sequencer. ChatGPT talked something about a counter. I did not understand it.
Got it. I’m doing something similar in a couple different patches and ended up going with 4 instances of DHE Stage:
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Thank you for this, could you please elaborate further how it works?
No sweat. Like so…
17Guardrails (01_2f)_envelopes_only_for_Hirretr808.vcv (4.1 KB)
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Thanks! Im diving.
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I patched from VCA to audio in but i dont get any sound from VCA. is something incorrect? Bless You =)
Ah, it seems there is no sound source, its just envelopes!
right. envelopes only. patch in the 4-channel poly source of your choosing.
2 ways/
1/ Perhaps look for sequencer with gate and cv out and use the cv to operate a switch that can switch with cv. Then the gate passes thru said switch to 3 envelopes.
2/ use one envelope and something like CVFunk Arrange to mod the envelope parameters, but sample delay the trigger to line up with arrange changes
Uuu, the solutions that are possible to later apply with real eurorack modules are the most satisfying.