Make Noise MultiMod !!!

Ok, this is too cool not to share, for inspiring module developers or Eurorack module buyers. The closest Rack reference might be something like if Surge Quad LFO and MI Tides had a baby, that took steroids, that then married an alien, had a baby, who decided to produce a module. Honestly… coolest thing I’ve seen in a long time.

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I watched the Make Noise video on this, and didn’t really know what was going on. I was cycling on the indoor trainer at the time, so not really giving it my full attention! Seems like it’s kind of an LFO with multiple outputs and the outputs can be gradually moved out of phase? Surely we can do this in VCV fairly easily. Also to take advantage properly, wouldn’t you need 8 filter modules in hardware for example (one for each output?).

I’ll have to watch it again.

I started watching the Make Noise video and gave up on it.

I got a lot more from the Sarah Belle Reid and Red Means Recording videos. The module opens up some very cool techniques and sounds. Yes it has an internal LFO, but it also processes external signals. I don’t see any simple way to emulate it.

Right then. Challenge accepted. :rofl:

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Here you go, 16 sine LFOs in sync:

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Now adjusted to start slowly moving out of phase:

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Slightly big patch though, probably an easier way of doing this! This was a rough and ready attempt but shows it’s entirely possible.

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Actually when you have 16 channels, if you modulate something like a resonant filter and you have a poly signal (I just used regular VCO with Bogaudio Assign to force it onto 16 channels), you get a kind of timestretch effect where the modulation is delayed. Makes some brain melting effects.

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How do you get the VCV LF0s to drift out of phase without affecting the frequency?

Or nevermind, the slight frequency offset (fm) will cause the phase shift

Not quite, what I did was to use Polycon with a different value on each channel. So I manually entered each one with -10v on channel 1, -9v on channel 2, etc. The values don’t matter as long as they’re evenly spaced. That signal goes into the Offset module, and the scale controls the overall speed, with the offset introducing phase difference between the channels when you move it either way from zero. A clock signal divided by 16 goes to the reset on every LFO to get them back in phase every 4 bars, with a mute if you want to leave them unsync’d. :slight_smile:

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Oh I see now. Cool

It does sound quite good. Next job is to wire up the different outputs to a switch, so we can switch between LFO waveforms…but wait! Isn’t phase difference just a tiny delay? There may be a much easier way to do this…

yes, phase and delay are related. for a constant frequency they are the same thing.

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I believe it is 8 lfo’s that can also be used as the phase oscillator for a cv recorder (like a varispeed control). Similar to ReMOVE Lite by Stoermelder. Only this time with 8 parallel phase oscillators/lfo’s that can be synced.

I will start experimenting with some modules, where you have control over the phase of a recorded signal. Simpliciter also has it for instance.

(I find it a pity sometimes the info on modules is somewhat obfuscated by using fancy terms. but then again: always nice to be challenged)

Mind sharing the rack or selection file for this?

I can share it later, I’ve just stuffed it up experimenting and need to put a few things back now! I looked at 8FO but it seems you can’t set all the output to the same phase. Also, it seems that processing CV through delay modules designed for audio doesn’t work, I should have known that! Anyone know of a polyphonic CV delay module? I can’t find anything that works.

Bogaudio CVD :smile:

But you could also play with Bogaudio Sine or Venom VCO lab where you have control over phase, and are fully polyphonic.

Erh guys, just saying, it’s a lot more than that :slight_smile: The audio mangling features alone are very interesting. Watch the videos…

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True, but it seems to me as though the core of this module are the 8 LFOs. If you can master that, you’ve won half the battle. The rest is using these LFOs modulate playheads for a recorded loop, cv or audio, this could be a challenge. Basically what @koen.kaptijn said :point_up_2:

The inbuilt LFO’s are almost a side-show. The big power is the CV or audio input, which is sampled, offset, spread, pitched and looped in umpteen ways.

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Exactly. My mind reels when trying to figure out the processing needed to simultaneously and independently pitch shift and phase shift an input signal the way MultiMod does. Maybe it can be done with a few simple primitive elements, but I don’t see it.

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