Hora RimShot no sound ?

Folks who grabbed Hora Analog Drums bundle, can you check please for confirm if Rimshot module not works or it’s just for me ?

As well, sometimes i can observed glitch what described Andre_M in this article (point #2): https://community.vcvrack.com/t/problem-with-hora-hi-hats-and-resetting-sequencers/19006

But it’s not just for HiHats, i could observe such “NaN” symthom for some other drum modules’ outputs too, and occurs randomly after load, unfortunately.

Just noticed Hora released updates today. Unfortunately, all the updates including Analog Drums failed to load after the update (at least on my Win10 PC) so I rolled back to the previous versions. Hopefully, the update will be fixed soon.

Update (Jan 9) it looks like the mew releases were removed a few hours after release. Will post another update when fixed.

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Oh good news (well some action at least, there is hope now).

Sry but can you confirm that Rimshot does not produce sound at all ? (Win10 here too)

RimShot v2.2.4 does not make any sound on my installation of VCV Rack v2.5.2 on Win10

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I have the same issue with RimShot at v2.2.4. This is the only version I have installed, since I just bought the module recently. What are the best options for downgrading a single module? Does anyone know the latest version that was not broken?

Thanks

No, you can not downgrade a single module in a plugin.

Have you already contacted the developer? Hora.music.contact@gmail.com

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And what are the options for downgrading the whole plugin? I could try that as well, but couldn’t find any info anywhere how to do it.

I wrote an email few days ago, but haven’t got any reply yet.

Unfortunately Hora is not open-source, so the only option is to wait for response.

Ok, thanks for help, thought there is a way to pin a version of a package in VCV Rack, so that it is preferred over latest.

Need say, a bit strange circumstance with author (Raphael). I did communicate with him in december 2024 (about bug in Hora Spectral Processor, for that i made separate topic once), and he said that “sent the new plugin builds to VCV so they will likely update those soon”. But as i see in Spectral Processor shop page info, it’s still the same 223 version as was when i sent report.

https://library.vcvrack.com/Hora-Processors/SpectralProcessor

Next (in january 2025) was my letter to him about issues with drums. And i got no reply this time.

Now, i see that even Hora official page does not open at all anymore. Although it was working (partially at least) in those times.

http://www.hora-music.be/sound-processors.php

So i’m unsure what occurs, and what with Raphael. (Hope he ok ? Otherwise this behavior is strange a bit)

UPD: idk how it occurs usually, mb there is sense to ask vcv sup if they are received some files (?)

I agree that this all sounds rather strange.

At least regarding the home page, it seems that the domain has changed from .be to .com, and links have not been updated. So try:

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Ok thanks it bring some hope.

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Just installed the updates from about an hour ago. All Hora modules were updated. Install OK on Win11. Rimshot works now.

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Detour continues to crash when 1V/Oct voltage reaches +8.6V (not solved bug).

Not getting Detour 2.2.6 to crash when sending 1vOct > 8.6v but I do get nanV at OUT on both TOMS.CONGA 2.2.5 causing them to go silent.

Using the commercial versions on Win11 running VCV Pro 2.6.6 standalone.

Definitely reach out to the email in the library page.

hora.music.contact@gmail.com

Someone is intending to update these, presumably they would like to know.

I had already reported this weird bug (who affect the commercial version) to Raphael by email (hora.music.contact@gmail.com) like you’ve wrote, March 26th to be precise! :wink:

Noboby except Raphael himself can update it, because the source code is not public (the related plugin is commercial).

Of course it’s always possible to add a kind of “voltage limiter / clipper” module before 1v/Oct input jack (in order to limit to +8.5V - or below - and avoid the Detour + VCV Rack crash, BTW), but it’s not serious and not professional I guess. However I can admit 8.5V as V/Oct is largely over audio range for humans, as example, C9 note is approx. +5.58V (mine 62-yrs old ears are not capable to hear these frequencies - lol).

I can reproduce this crash, so I figured I’d provide some extra info after testing this a bit myself:

This seems to be caused by the module not clamping the frequency to sample rate / 2, which then causes it to alias if the V/Oct is high enough. Something causes the signal to “blow up” if you go high enough for the aliased frequency to reach all the way down to 0Hz.

This makes the crash sample-rate dependant, because the V/Oct needs to be high enough for the aliasing to fold back at sample rate / 2, then reach all the way back down to 0Hz. For 48KHz, that’s about 8.6V, for 96KHz, about 9.6V. At 192KHz and above, even a full 10V isn’t enough to fold it back down to 0Hz and trigger the crash.

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…not clamping the frequency to sample rate / 2,

Also named the Nyquist frequency… :wink:

Of course I’ve tested only @ 48000Hz… But thank you for your investigation! :wink:

Oh tnx for headup about update, finally. Did found updates for all Hora plugs too (incl Spectral Processor). Will check.