I completely agree that there is nothing illegal or immoral about making a software version/copy/tribute of a non-patented piece of hardware. And regardless of what you think about patenting a circuit I would expect very few synth modules are patented.
And I think we all agree that the closer your panel design is to the original the sleazier it is, with an exact replica of the graphic being on one extreme, and identical collection of controls with identical names being at best unoriginal…
Perhaps we disagree on details of open source licenses. I know myself I have mentioned here that people shouldn’t distribute modified versions of other people’s modules in cases that clearly violate the license terms. Admittedly these licenses are not super easy to understand, i.e. they make you think like a lawyer. But there are genuinely developers here who don’t want someone to port their 1.x modules to 2.x and redistribute them.
I wasn’t aware that Rob Hordijk had said that. I wrote it purely out of an interest to get my hands on the module as it seems like it’s a module with lots of creative uses. No fuss intended.
Also a reminder can we please keep this thread civil.
I know, which boggles my mind since that’s exactly one of the big reasons for having Open Source in the first place - so the users or developers can pick up the pieces and move on.
I suspect there are some developers like me. Went open source because it seemed to be the thing to do without really considering all the ramifications. And I kind of doubt that users care too much about this either. Seems like many of the most popular plugins are closed source. (Vult, Nysthi, VCV host, VCV as a VST).
I know also some devs weren’t really excited by giving away their work for free to support the paid VCV pro.
I chose to release as open source when I began developing for VCV in 2019 based on Andrew’s recommendation, and, it seemed to be the thing to do in an open source project. If I had to make that choice today, I’m not sure what I would decide, but I would sure look into the ramifications of my choice much deeper than I did in 2019.
There are probably as many reasons for releasing as open or closed source, free or paid, as there are developers here.
I’m also a proponent of civility and kindness. But, that is just me.
I’m a proponent for ethical “guidelines” and decisions rather than legality decisions.
But, that’s just me. No one can speak for me except me.
I just read an old post from Rob the other day, but I can’t seem to find it, and can’t remember the exact words. Someone said something about him being generous with his release of the Benjolin design to the world. From what I remember, he responded about wanting to encourage people building electronic instruments, but did not want other people making money off of his design, and hoped others in the community would help keep people in line as far as that goes.
I believe the Benjolin is the only design he made public. All the other synth stuff that he has designed and sells has remained proprietary.
This is all stuff I read about within the past few days. I hadn’t even heard of Rob or the Benjolin until about a week ago - so I am not speaking with any deep understanding or sense of history. But I am enjoying the learning process.
in my little time I wrote the “BOH!ngler” that in my original idea was an extended RUNGLER
with 256 bits shift register, divided in 16 lines
creating 16 voltages (UNI or BIPO), with XOR mode and clock and DSR clock
bitshifting from 1 to 16
when bitshifting by 16 is effectively 16 stage ASR
I found the quote I was thinking of, but he was comparing digital vs analog. Digital could still be hardware, so I suppose this does not directly apply to hardware vs software.
I made my plugin closed source a while ago because Rob Hordijk only allowed me to release the TVCF (TwinPeak filter clone) when closed source.
This was what I read some time ago and it had to do with the Twinpeak filter clone made by MSM.
I think I translated that to Rob doesn’t like open source clones of his work.
Just seeing this - wondering if you ever shared your Wing Pinger emulation patch @koen.kaptijn - didn’t find it on Patchstorage but I’d love to try it out!
My goodness! I forgot how far off track this topic got!
Related to the original topic - the Stabile filter can be induced into a constant NaN output if hit hard while VCV Rack is running at 24 kHz. Presumably for similar reasons - untested fallback code for odd sample rates.
