name the free version of VCV Rack v2

Names are just smoke and mirrors, but it’s interesting and entertaining to talk about them. However, it would be much more important to know the intentions and strategies behind the names. In my opinion, too little was informed about this in advance and, with the discussion of the name, the horse was effectively bridled from behind.

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whats a about of VCV Rack Suite it include the standalone and the plugging

and VCV Rack for the standalone only

(I must to say I really like VCV Rack and VCV Rack CE names)

Give people something to talk about and they will chat endlessly.

From my perspective, every music software (especially a VST) needs a try-before-you-buy version and the so-called ‘VCV Rack CE’ may do this job just well. The goal is to get people to buy the paid version and to support the developer so that future development will be possible.

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I think VCV Rack Suite could be a very good competitor to the studio version. The word Studio can have a “better than the not studio version” connotation with the music producing folks. I think Suite has a widely accepted understanding, that it isn’t necessarily better, just containing a greater variety of tools – which is exactly what the vst version would do.

I agree with you regarding the “try-and-buy” option. But I think that the free BASIC version lacks the decisive feature, namely the DAW integration, which therefore cannot be judged in advance. However, this is the main function why it is necessary to pay for the COMPLETE version.

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I’m not sure if this is the information you mean, but as far as I can remember the relationship between the plugin version and the free, open-source product has been basically stable, and openly discussed, for over two years now.

As far as I can see, the name change is the only way this differs from the structure announced in the development blog on June 2019:

And here’s what the FAQ said in April 2019, the earliest capture of that page on the Wayback Machine:

Shortly after Rack 2.0 releases, Rack will also be available as a 64-bit VST2 plugin for around $99. VST3/AU/AAX versions might be released afterwards. All Rack v2 plugins will be compatible with the plugin version of Rack. The primary “standalone” version of Rack v2 will continue to be free/open-source.

Looking this up, I was a little surprised, as I had forgotten that even the VST2-first release was planned!

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Thanks for the refresher. It has already been published a lot about V2 and maybe I missed one or the other. With “intentions and strategies” I actually meant the marketing. The naming plays a significant role when it comes to potential buyers. Technically, the name is quite no matter.

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Ah, got it :slight_smile:

I agree that the naming is quite important (hence my apparent addiction to this thread :sweat_smile:). Names can also be pretty sticky: here’s GearNews announcing Rack Community Edition even though the VCV announcement said the name was tentative…

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It is often said in software engineering (at least in my experience, as a sort of joke-meme that stems from a universal truth) that the two hardest problems are caching & naming. In this case you have both, trying not to invalidate the cached name of “VCV Rack” and trying to think of a name for the evolved product. As is common in life you may have to make a compromise, lest your pursuit of perfection impedes your improvement.

oiow; I think Community & Studio will work just fine

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I thought the two hardest problems were caching, naming, and off-by-one errors?

Anyway, well put :slight_smile:

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Robin “Molten Modular” Vincent wrote that article so it must be true :wink:

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Looks like it was! :slight_smile:

Nice thinking starting the thread, @main.tenant, and, again, props to @attheleash for “Studio”! Maybe there should be a forum badge for “Rack 2 Namer” :star2:

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Differentiating VCV Rack with editions seems like a sensible choice to me.

There are three sorts of mathematician: those who can count and those who can’t.

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As a user willing to use VCV Rack in my DAWs, I’m longing to see VCV Rack Studio come to life, but I’m a bit worried by the price. I read months ago that the VST version would probably cost around 99$ (I dont’ remember where I read it). Now I read 149$ from @pyer. I guess these are only predictions, but I wonder it this is the real order of magnitude of the price that we should expect.

For my personal economies 50$, 150$, 300$ make a big difference. It means staying with VCV or having to leave it (becase on Windows any inter app audio communication and clock sync is a nightmare!).

Not to worry, there’s been an official announcement on this:

I haven’t seen how long the release sale would last, but this is a pretty common model for audio software now and in my experience a two to four week period is typical. There might also be occasional sales after release (as there are for paid plugins, including VCV plugins, in the library)–I’m speculating on that point, though, so if you can buy it for $99 during the release period I would do so.

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I think $99 is a steal, $150 is fine by me as well. Considering what you get. Softube Modular is ok, but the UI is kinda crummy and slow, preset browser is rough, and I am not fond of Voltage modular.

IMO VCV is just a beast. UI is amazing, sounds amazing, Mutable, Befaco, Instruo…hopefully Malekko will come out, and I am sure once its out, other companies will jump in as well.

I like the price point for what you get.

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while it’s true that it’s nice to see Eurorack hardware companies make modules for VCV, there are quite a few free VCV modules that have no eurorack equivalent and are very good. Thousands of them, actually. And most are free.

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Absolutely agree. I have assembled a hybrid system for this very reason.

I agree completely, I was naming the brands just because its an obvious draw factor for new users, or those not sure what to choose regarding spending money on a plugin

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