The patch :
I want to add random 16th notes rolls. I will trigger them with an AND, both conditions being the clock and a clocked random gate with a bernoulli gate.
But I want the rolls to be velocity tied, I want crescendos and decrescendos.
The output VCA already has the ADSR information and the overall velocity information. If I tie the rolls to this VCA, it won’t behave as intended.
Any idea ? It bugs me for several patches now, I can’t find the clever way
I’ll bet you can do it with Shape Master. @steve ?
Oh, btw, Comp is find if you only need a channel or 2, but if you want a separate comp on every send from MindMeld mixer, Comp II is your new best friend.
Shape Master has very nice curves, but my pain right now is not what module to use, but where and how to use it in my chain ; In my mind, I want two volume chains merged in some way but the building part doesn’t make sense yet
Oh, and this is my master comp before limiting, when I need per track compression I already use Comp II as an insert
Not sure I understand what you are trying to achieve, but the way I interpret your request, you need two additional VCAs.
Currently you have an envelope as CV control into your existing VCA.
Take that envelope as input to a 2nd VCA, and use your ANDed clock/random gates as CV control for the 2nd VCA. Then take that output as CV control for a 3rd VCA that controls your roll output.
Or perhaps I totally misunderstand what you are trying to achieve.
I’m not sure I really understand what you’re after either - Are you talking about rolls like snare rolls? Or rolls more like a trance gate?
ShapeMaster can potentially, take care of both with its built in VCAs. If you wanted to add crescendos/decrescendos to a snare roll for example you could just pass the audio through a SM channel, trigger it with the same trigger that starts your roll, draw a ramp shape and set length as desired.
To do a gated crescendo/decrescendo of 16ths, pass the audio through a SM channel, set the grid-x to 32 and draw in 16 steps in a ramp pattern. Add smoothing if required.
I dropped it, I was unable to make it sound natural, both VCAs were cutting each other. I tried different setups, ditched the whole chain and went for a random clock multiplication without volume ramp.
I need to try ShapeMaster, but like every MindMeld module I’m afraid that once I try it I can’t use anything else
The instrument in my patch was an audible resonator, it produces some sort of bended string and I wanted to do gentle rolls, the sort you can do with your fingernails on a guitar. Finally clock multiplication is simpler than what I had in mind, I’m used to have precise control over velocity inside my DAW and I rely heavily on it, so in VCV I really feel impaired (for now)
Thank you for the explanation tho, I’ll get SM and try things
The Bogaudio VELO VCA is designed specifically to handle velocity information
This will so much change my life
Thank you !