has anyone had these mouse knob control issues? (Linux/Wayland)

does anybody else here use Rack on Linux (i’m on Arch), under Wayland? i don’t know if that’s relevant, but i’m currently having a weird issue when trying to manipulate knobs that i never experienced on Windows - when i click and hold to start dragging up/down to turn a knob, if i move the mouse up in a way i normally would to raise a value, the knob instantly jumps to the max value, and instantly back down when dragging down. (if it helps, this only happens when “Lock Cursor While Dragging” is enabled, which i’ve always had enabled before)

if i click, hold, and move up only what feels like a fraction of a millimeter, the knob value will slowly begin increasing while i’m still holding the mouse button down, even if i’m not moving the mouse up any further. it just automatically continues increasing. if i then move the mouse down that same fractional amount while still holding the mouse button, it slowly starts decreasing. so it’s not actually “instant” when moving the mouse normally, it’s just happening too fast for me to notice, i imagine.

admittedly i haven’t used Rack in a bit so i can’t pinpoint when it started, but the last time i opened it prior to today (a couple/few months ago, i would guess), everything worked normally / as expected. i’m not sure what changed (other than, i’m sure, an update at some point via pacman/yay)

I experimented the same issues, so I came back to X11 (which I also need for my touch overlay).

oh, that’s a bummer to hear. i honestly really don’t want to go back to X11 lol

and like i said it was working fine all the previous times i’ve used it in this same environment. it had to have only started sometime in the last few months.

anyway, thanks for responding. at least i know it’s not just a me issue.

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Did either of you ran xwayland? (I think most desktop environments have it, but I’ve seen users that didn’t)

It’s kind of amazing how wayland is pushed as default on major Linux distros even though there are still big issues with it.

I didn’t try it, as what I did was get rid of Wayland directly :sweat_smile:. I’m very comfortable with Xorg, so I just focused in other, more interesting things.

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actually i think i’m technically using xwayland, now that you mention it.

i’m not 100% sure, but i can verify it’s installed, currently. like i said i’m on Arch, and running Hyprland. and i do seem to remember reading at some point in my early Hyprland experience that xwayland would be involved somehow

not a linux user, but everyone on every platform has experience jumpy mouse issues with updates starting with 2.6.4

I had the same issue with my mouse and contacted VCV-Support a while back.

According to the CHANGELOG it has been fixed since 2.6.5 for Mac and Windows. At least I don’t have the issue anymore since that update.

I guess they didn’t fix it yet for Linux then?

Best idea is to write to the VCV-Support. I got some feedback after a couple of days, especially to switch off “Lock Cursor While Dragging” and then a month later the notification that they fixed it for the next update.

I have run Rack on Debian Linux with xfce as my graphics shell for 3+ years. Currently I’m running Rack 2.6.6.

According to this…

$ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
x11

Debian/xfce is using x11. I don’t have any mouse issues. Just another data point; I hope it helps.

Have you upgraded to the latest Rack version 2.6.6, which should fix mouse issues? If that doesn’t do it try and disable “Lock Cursor While Dragging” and see if that fixes it.

I’ve seen what you describe happen when using virtual machines, if you are using one, disabling mouse integration (auto-capture and auto-release) always fixes the problem for me; I always use X Window, mind you.

I’ve been having the same issue on Wayland, and disabling the “Lock Cursor While Dragging” checkbox fixed it. I also turned on scrollwheel support on knobs and generally prefer that anyhow.

The bug was very odd; knobs behaved like mouse position changed velocity of the knob’s position instead of just position.

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It might have been a general bug across platforms. I’m using macOS. Do you have the last version of VCV installed? The last two (2.6.6 and 2.6.5) should not have this issues anymore. At least not with Windows or Mac. Maybe it’s still an issue with Linux though. Write to VCV Support if it still is an issue after updating to the last version of VCV.

yeah I’m on the latest version over here on Arch linux, and its still happening.

but yes, turning off the “lock cursor” option prevents the issue from occurring. it’s not quite as easy to adjust knobs this way, but not the end of the world, just slightly less convenient which is certainly acceptable.