Does Floats not exist anymore?
Floats is now named Spike, here’s the link:
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This is the only module that comes close to maths, right?
I’ve read endless threads about comparison of beface and maths yet all end the same way: even if you own rampage, maths is an interesting module.
Are Floats customers automatically spikes customers?
yup
I think so, at least in the Rack universe, although I suppose one can mimic similar functionalities by coupling different Rack modules. Just a guess, but I’d also investigate whether in the NYSTHI collection there could be something near that…
Anyway, as I always try to resort to the manuals at some point, the Floats one gives several use cases and patching schemas, and those could also serve as a reference for alternative patching with no-Maths.
As of the hardware Eurorack world, I am not on that unfortunately, but I’d say that there are more competitors or analogies. If you are in the game, on the ModularGrid website I found this virtual assembly of physical modules for a “no-Math” comparation and it looks quite interesting!
The main value of Maths & Rampage in the hardware world is that they can do so much with clever patching, but does it matter that much in software, where you can have a collection of single purpose modules you can spam?
I’m often guilty of using multiple simple modules where a more complex one like Rampage would elegantly suffice, but is there any guilt to have about doing things the easy way, if I prefer the software workflow and have no plans to ever side-grade from software to hardware?
Even if you use VCV to learn the field before you commit to making hardware purchases, why not learn rampage, a very similar module ported with the blessing of the author, save your money for the real thing, and learn how it differs from Rampage? Does it matter enough to have Maths you’d pay for a clone, knowing that this money doesn’t support the creators of the original?
Might seem like I’m asking rhetorical questions here but I’m sincere.
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I have had Floats/Spikes for a while now, bought it when it was $10, and I never use it. At first, it was fun to try the patch examples in the actual Maths manual to see all the things you could do with it. It does have nice envelopes, like super snappy to seriously slow. However, for me it’s not very intuitive, unlike Rampage which always seemed intuitive. And, I’m not gonna sit there and build crazy self-patched single functions with Spikes when there’s easier modules to do that with. I agree with Aria, in real hardware this might be cool to have a Swiss Army knife module, but in Rack I see no point. That said, I still use and love Rampage, it’s just easy and fun to use.
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I truly admire your approach as much as I follow your works. Yet my setup does not allow me to exhaust my CPU to the limit.
As far as for the support - I surely do not want to support the creator of spikes since they did not work together with make noise. I’d rather pay makenoise for an online module (:
But thanks to you and @AdiQ I’ll stick with rampage for the time being.
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I must admit, it tracks V/oct much better than rampage as a VCO, and the ultra short attack time makes is a crazy waveshaper as a filter. It is also the only module that does the serge SSG, which seams as self patching madness as math…
I have been whatching a lot of Serge system videos lately. I don’t think patch programable is more useful in hardware than VCV, each time you turn math into an eveloppe or an LFO, you loose a VCO or a filter… Patch programing is more a way to work with very few different modules, you just have to learn them very well, and That could be good for VCV as well., you could do a complete album with like 16 Spikes running at the same time!
This module is quite a good intro in the Serge selfpatching world, I believe it’s the only one in this spirit… Unfortunately, the last version of the GUI is quite a mess… It will take time to get use to
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Would it not be possible to make a module that does what Maths does without exactly copying the functionality of it? I hear a lot about Maths (and have been hearing about it since I got into all this a while ago) and it seems that you could make something as interlinked and multifaceted without impinging on the MakeNoise IP.
As for today, Friedrisch’s module doesn’t interfer with Math’s IP (it could be discussed how Math interfer with Serge IP, but other story), It’s still a clone has it has all the features, but it is a different layout, there is more and unreleated features, whider time range, … I really think it can be seen as it’s own beast now, it’s more “math meets rampage meets Serge DUSG, NCOM and SSG” at the same time
Other than that, you have what math does by combining befaco ramppage and A*B+C
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I just wish he had some help with the design. The latest version is quite offensive to the eye. If someone who designs awesome modules could do some design, you know… 
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Or at LEAST a manual that tells you the function of everything… the manual is still for Floats…
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Anyone know where the documentation/manual is for Spikes/Floats. I’ve not found it so far. Would be useful to have a link for this
Do you know the link for the Floats manual? It would be better than nothing
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Do anyone have this version?
I think that one is 0.6.x only. I seem to remember that variheight modules actually aren’t supported by v1, but I could be wrong.
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