I’ve had a few audio related issues causing Rack not to load (removed all unnecessary audio devices) and I’ve finally got it running. However, I have one issue left:
Before I got the standalone version to run I already could start the VST, but with 1 caveat: I could n’t select an audio driver (it had already selected DAW as engine, and no other options are shown)
By now I’ve fixed the standalone version, and I can select all my audio interfaces in either Wasapi, ASIO or direct sound. I still can’t select an audio driver in the VST audio module, it still only allows DAW.
The magic thing that the VST promised is that I can have my DAW use sound card 1, and have the VST use my other soundcard, in Windows, without Asio4all. In my case: Ableton Live 11 is using Focusrite Scarlet 8i6 (which is my default audio card), and the VST should use my Expert Sleepers ES-8, which serves as the bridge to my hardware eurorack.
Now, I haven’t seen this is any videos yet, so I am starting to think that I’m crazy, but I am 1000% percent sure a few people, including myself, have asked on multiple occasions whether this would be possible in the VST, and Andrew assured us several times that this would indeed be possible.
I got that impression at the time too and I still believe that was the original intention but perhaps he ran into insurmountable problems trying to implement that - it would certainly be far from straightforward. As it stands now the DAW audio driver is the only one you can access through the VST. If you want to route CV etc back and forth to hardware, you need to do it via the DAW.
One workaround you might be able to do is use your ES-8 as the interface for your DAW (which allows you to pass CV in and out of it) and use a couple of the channels on the ES-8 to send audio out to your Focusrite for monitoring.
Indeed. About 6 months ago I bought an RME digiface which is just 4 x ADAT in out. I can run Es-3s and ES-6 off that but it also allowed for low latency audio loopback channels which gave me good sync and multi-track audio between my DAW and VCV before Rack 2 VST came out. I thought I probably wouldn’t need it anymore when Rack 2 was finally released but it has turned out to be incredibly useful even now because of this lack of access to other drivers from within VCV. I connect one pair of ADATS to my older Audient ID22 interfece which I use for monitoring and recording from its pair of very good Mic Pres.
If access to additional drivers does not end up materialising at some point, I’d highly recommend this as a good alternative.
Yes, not directly with the VST because nothing works with the VST except the DAW driver. What this does is give me is lots of CV capable routing in/out from the DAW which makes using the DAW driver for VCV stuff quite practical. The DAW just acts as the middle man.
With 4 x ADAT in out I have:
2 x ES-3 for 16 Audio/CV channels out
1 x ES-6 for 6 x Audio/CV in (could add an ES-7 for 2 more)
1 x Behringer 8200 AD converter for 8 line ins from hardware synths
and 8 channels of in/out to my old interface for monitoring, a couple of high quality Mic Press and a few loopback channels if I need them.
So if I want to send CV out from the Rack VST to hardware, I first send it to the DAW where there’s an audio channel that has that as the input and the output as one of the ES-3 channels. And vice versa for receiving CV/audio into the Rack VST from hardware.
Would like to use the ES-9 as a separate audio interface in VCV VST as well. That would save a lot of hassle with using other ways to use VCV and lose some reliability.
At least you now can use multiple audiocards in VCV standalone and if you have shared drivers you can use your main audio interface together with your DAW of choice and VCV standalone. Or you can use the outputs of soundcard1 to put into some spare inputs of soundcard2 with or without a mixer in between.
Use a hardware or software midi loopback for syncing also is possible. My personal experience that it not always works very well and you may get microstutters. Too bad Propellorheads dropped their Rewire support and it requires a license fee as well. I don’t now about Ableton Sync though.
Don’t mean to be a hassle, or insinuate that Rack 2 is anything less than monumental. However, I paid 99 bucks for this specific feature (as others might) that was described by Andrew on multiple occasions, so I’d like to know whether it is on the backlog or dropped.
I’ll take it up with support, but it is of interest for everyone who considers buying the Pro version.
Good News! The feature does exist and will be enabled some time from now:
"Ah yes, that makes sense. It looks like that feature has been forgotten about after it was disabled in the Rack Pro 2.0 build. We can re-enable it soon after stability testing in a future release. It will likely not work with ASIO but should work with all other drivers.
VCV Rack’s prime use case, imho, is as central hub in a hybrid (soft+hardware) setup.
Other softwares my be able to compete, but this specific feature allows us to use this hybrid setup as a VST in your DAW, which makes it completely unique. Really looking forward to giving this a spin, some time in the future.